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	<title>Comments on: Arnold Guts California</title>
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		<title>By: El Samayo Grande</title>
		<link>http://oehlberg.com/blog/2009/06/02/arnold-guts-california/comment-page-1/#comment-389</link>
		<dc:creator>El Samayo Grande</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Jul 2009 18:08:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Davis DID veto the Democratic budget, or atleast threatened to unless they accommodated the Republicans more. 

He also reneged on Pete Wilson&#039;s (as Republican as you get) promise to raise car registration fees if there was a budget deficit, especially on gas-guzzlers. 

Ben&#039;s right - we get the government we deserve. Until Californians stop trying to push their problems into the future, like with the housing bubble, things won&#039;t get better.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Davis DID veto the Democratic budget, or atleast threatened to unless they accommodated the Republicans more. </p>
<p>He also reneged on Pete Wilson&#8217;s (as Republican as you get) promise to raise car registration fees if there was a budget deficit, especially on gas-guzzlers. </p>
<p>Ben&#8217;s right &#8211; we get the government we deserve. Until Californians stop trying to push their problems into the future, like with the housing bubble, things won&#8217;t get better.</p>
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		<title>By: Mark</title>
		<link>http://oehlberg.com/blog/2009/06/02/arnold-guts-california/comment-page-1/#comment-350</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Jun 2009 18:03:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I disagree.  Gray Davis probably would have not vetoed the Democrat Majority Budget: &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.gov.ca.gov/press-release/12615/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.gov.ca.gov/press-release/12615/&lt;/a&gt;

Arnold is trying to use shock doctrine techniques and free market economic theory on California. California is preparing itself to become a US version of Bolivia from the 90s.  Gray Davis would have sucked, but Gray Davis would be hard pressed to be doing worse than Arnold.  Arnold and the minority Republicans are in lock step with the power of the veto to prevent anything other than ONLY budget cuts to solve the budget problems.

Watch the following video to see where Arnold gets his economic foundation:

&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KKbHA76-Hi0&amp;&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KKbHA76-Hi0&amp;&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I disagree.  Gray Davis probably would have not vetoed the Democrat Majority Budget: <a href="http://www.gov.ca.gov/press-release/12615/" rel="nofollow">http://www.gov.ca.gov/press-release/12615/</a></p>
<p>Arnold is trying to use shock doctrine techniques and free market economic theory on California. California is preparing itself to become a US version of Bolivia from the 90s.  Gray Davis would have sucked, but Gray Davis would be hard pressed to be doing worse than Arnold.  Arnold and the minority Republicans are in lock step with the power of the veto to prevent anything other than ONLY budget cuts to solve the budget problems.</p>
<p>Watch the following video to see where Arnold gets his economic foundation:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KKbHA76-Hi0&#038;" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KKbHA76-Hi0&#038;</a></p>
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		<title>By: El Samayo Grande</title>
		<link>http://oehlberg.com/blog/2009/06/02/arnold-guts-california/comment-page-1/#comment-336</link>
		<dc:creator>El Samayo Grande</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Jun 2009 01:00:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t really think Arnold should take the blame here - if Gray Davis had still been governor, he would have been waaaay worse.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t really think Arnold should take the blame here &#8211; if Gray Davis had still been governor, he would have been waaaay worse.</p>
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		<title>By: Mark</title>
		<link>http://oehlberg.com/blog/2009/06/02/arnold-guts-california/comment-page-1/#comment-327</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Jun 2009 16:35:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I guess my point with Arnold is that he is in the position of setting the plan going forward.  His plan going forward has absolutely no tax increases.  He bases this plan on the false claim that the special election was a bunch of taxes and when the voters voted them down, they voted against taxes.  If anyone parroting Arnold&#039;s premise, that the special elections were a referendum on higher taxes, obviously did not read the actual propositions.

I would write more, but instead I found someone that wrote what I was thinking on the &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=105118623&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;talk of the nation page yesterday&lt;/a&gt;.  Talk of the nation had a segment on California and I was pissed when Neil Conan flatly accepted Arnold&#039;s line that the special election was a referendum on taxes.  I think I actually switched to listening to music when he did.  Here is the quote:

&quot;I find it amazing that the Governor has managed to sell the election results as, &quot;California voters chose spending cuts over tax increases,&quot; and the hosts of the NPR and KQED shows that I listen to appear to have accepted this story blindly.

I invite Neal Conan and my fellow commenters to read the initiatives we were given to vote on: http://www.voterguide.sos.ca.gov/.

ONE initiative (1A) included tax extensions, FOUR initiatives (1B-1E) involved services cuts, and one initiative (1F) would ding legislators if they failed to pass a budget on time.

Only 1F passed. All the others went down roughly 70-30.

So California voters said NO to spending cuts four times, and NO to tax extensions once. How was this election about affirming spending cuts over raising taxes?

Also, check out who signed on to the argument in favor of proposition 1A: TERESA CASAZZA, President California Taxpayers&#039; Association. This organization is devoted to limiting taxes, its Web site (&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.caltax.org/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.caltax.org/&lt;/a&gt;) cheers for prop 13, and yet, the ONLY initiative that would have expanded tax revenues received this organization&#039;s backing.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I guess my point with Arnold is that he is in the position of setting the plan going forward.  His plan going forward has absolutely no tax increases.  He bases this plan on the false claim that the special election was a bunch of taxes and when the voters voted them down, they voted against taxes.  If anyone parroting Arnold&#8217;s premise, that the special elections were a referendum on higher taxes, obviously did not read the actual propositions.</p>
<p>I would write more, but instead I found someone that wrote what I was thinking on the <a href="http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=105118623" rel="nofollow">talk of the nation page yesterday</a>.  Talk of the nation had a segment on California and I was pissed when Neil Conan flatly accepted Arnold&#8217;s line that the special election was a referendum on taxes.  I think I actually switched to listening to music when he did.  Here is the quote:</p>
<p>&#8220;I find it amazing that the Governor has managed to sell the election results as, &#8220;California voters chose spending cuts over tax increases,&#8221; and the hosts of the NPR and KQED shows that I listen to appear to have accepted this story blindly.</p>
<p>I invite Neal Conan and my fellow commenters to read the initiatives we were given to vote on: <a href="http://www.voterguide.sos.ca.gov/" rel="nofollow">http://www.voterguide.sos.ca.gov/</a>.</p>
<p>ONE initiative (1A) included tax extensions, FOUR initiatives (1B-1E) involved services cuts, and one initiative (1F) would ding legislators if they failed to pass a budget on time.</p>
<p>Only 1F passed. All the others went down roughly 70-30.</p>
<p>So California voters said NO to spending cuts four times, and NO to tax extensions once. How was this election about affirming spending cuts over raising taxes?</p>
<p>Also, check out who signed on to the argument in favor of proposition 1A: TERESA CASAZZA, President California Taxpayers&#8217; Association. This organization is devoted to limiting taxes, its Web site (<a href="http://www.caltax.org/" rel="nofollow">http://www.caltax.org/</a>) cheers for prop 13, and yet, the ONLY initiative that would have expanded tax revenues received this organization&#8217;s backing.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Ben</title>
		<link>http://oehlberg.com/blog/2009/06/02/arnold-guts-california/comment-page-1/#comment-324</link>
		<dc:creator>Ben</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Jun 2009 17:43:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m not here to defend Arnold, but remember he&#039;s the governor, not the king.  He&#039;s not allowed to raise taxes, as far as I understand.  We, the people, in our wisdom, decided that tax increases required a two-thirds majority in the Legislature.  Basically, we erected a huge barrier between our problems and the obvious solution.  I don&#039;t know what happens if the governor acts like the rest of us and just pretends it&#039;s someone else&#039;s problem.  Do we file for bankruptcy?  Do we just stop having a state government?

I&#039;m not happy about the state park closures.  I&#039;m outraged that we&#039;re handing out 10% pay cuts to state workers like candy.  The only reasonable solution is to pay for the services we want and give up those we don&#039;t.  The imbalance is that the first part takes 2/3 and the second part only takes 1/2.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m not here to defend Arnold, but remember he&#8217;s the governor, not the king.  He&#8217;s not allowed to raise taxes, as far as I understand.  We, the people, in our wisdom, decided that tax increases required a two-thirds majority in the Legislature.  Basically, we erected a huge barrier between our problems and the obvious solution.  I don&#8217;t know what happens if the governor acts like the rest of us and just pretends it&#8217;s someone else&#8217;s problem.  Do we file for bankruptcy?  Do we just stop having a state government?</p>
<p>I&#8217;m not happy about the state park closures.  I&#8217;m outraged that we&#8217;re handing out 10% pay cuts to state workers like candy.  The only reasonable solution is to pay for the services we want and give up those we don&#8217;t.  The imbalance is that the first part takes 2/3 and the second part only takes 1/2.</p>
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