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Why I stopped Listening to Radiolab

radiolabRadiolab used to be my favorite podcast.  If you have never heard Radiolab, then here is their own description of what their show is about:

“Radiolab believes your ears are a portal to another world. Where sound illuminates ideas, and the boundaries blur between science, philosophy, and human experience. Big questions are investigated, tinkered with, and encouraged to grow. Bring your curiosity, and we’ll feed it with possibility.”

With that information floating in your head I’m going to move on to my list.  As someone who does not make a ton of money, I personally don’t donate a lot of money.  I don’t have a lot of material needs or wants, so my relative lack of funds does not particularly bother me.  When my birthday or when Christmas rolls around, I’m usually at a loss as to what thingamajig I want.  When constructing a list of desired presents, I usually end up filling it with places I would like money to be donated to instead of stuff I would like to have and then trow away a year later.  Topping the list is usually a donation to Radiolab.  Unfortunately my list will have to remove Radiolab.  But Why?

Here is where Radiolab rubs me the wrong way.  Radiolab will have a show and interview scientists about their research.  The scientists will explain experiments on sleep, probability..whatever(so far so good).  Jad and Robert, the narrators, will try and break down the whole process.  Robert, unfortunately, makes it his mission to blur the boundaries of “science philosophy and human experience”.  Very specifically Robert tries to blur the lines between his personal religious views and science.

This behavior was on full display on a show devoted entirely to a Biblical story where critical thinking gets chucked out the window and personal religious views get barfed in your ear:

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It is a sermon about an immoral act committed in the Old Testament.  Robert tries to turn the attempted murder of Isaac by his father Abraham into some sort of thought provoking incident.  The fact is that it should be a no brainer: don’t kill your innocent son, even if God commands it.  Abraham makes the wrong decision and tries to kill his son.  Even after all of Robert’s attempts to shoehorn in some sort of mental dilemma into the mind of Abraham, an addition to the story that doesn’t occur in the original, the fundamental unethical act of attempted murder remains.  The fact is that the bible doesn’t tell you what Abraham was thinking in the story.  Instead of a distraught and worried Abraham having to decide between the voices in his head and the life of his son (Roberts assesment of the situation), one could just as easily contemplate Abraham’s thoughts as being filled with a gleeful murderous bloodthirsty lust for the crime that God has just given him the moral authority to commit.  There is no evidince of either internal monolouge, only of the situation and of the acts commited.  The moral of the original Bible story, attempted murder of your innocent son because God commands it, is unethical. Robert completely ignores this and instead tries to put a positive shine on the whole matter by inserting a story that he himself makes up.

As you can tell I did not like that particular Sermon/podcast.  The “big issue” that was discussed was not done critically, evidence was ignored, and authorities on the subject of ethics or philosophy were not consulted.  Afterwards I was wondering if Radiolab would continue to operate as usual, as if this Sermon never happened, or if the listening audience would get little old testament interjections into the podcast.  My answer came when I listened to the most recent podcast…specifically at around 12:12:
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At that portion of the podcast Robert insinuates that prayer can play a statistically significant factor in Stochastic processes.  This is a false statement, and if he asked the researcher he interviewed, I’m fairly certain he would not agree with Robert’s statement.  It wasn’t a big violation, but I was so close to the precipice of not listening to Radiolab after the sermon, that the small prick from Robert’s prayer beliefs interjected into the podcast pushed me over the edge to the land of no Radiolab.

And with that…I moved on.

6 comments

6 Comments so far

  1. El Samayo Grande July 10th, 2009 12:24 pm

    A third explanation of Abraham’s mindset as he prepared to kill Isaac – he was so eager for the kind of power God would grant him that he was willing to commit the most heinous acts to obtain it.

  2. Mark July 22nd, 2009 11:43 am

    Apparently the latest episode of radiolab is a conversation between Robert Krulwich and Richard Dawkins. I guess I’ll give radiolab one last listen:
    http://blogs.wnyc.org/radiolab/2009/07/13/in-defense-of-darwin/

    More comments after the listen…

  3. Mark July 22nd, 2009 12:52 pm

    Yeah….more of Roberts personal and unfounded religious views are on display in the latest radiolab. Back to not subscribing to radiolab. Definitely the right decision.

  4. Ben July 23rd, 2009 6:17 am

    you need to read some kierkegaard yo

  5. Mark July 23rd, 2009 6:55 am

    Kierkegaard was trying to solve the problem of people attending church but he thought were not really true believers (at least that is what I remember from listening to some teaching company lectures on the matter). He wanted to fight people that had gotten into the rhythm of church attendance thinking that just going through the motions was a religious experience. He was a big believer in faith: deciding to fervently believe something despite any evidence. That unscientific proposal winds up being untenable for me. I think the fact that Kierkegaard was trying to solve a different problem makes some of his proposals inapplicable to my position.
    Actually I now realize that you are probably referring to Kierkegaard’s Fear and Trembling. In it, Kierkegaard makes a very bold philosophical move. He claims that Abraham does the correct thing. He contends that the ethics and reasoning of man is deeply flawed and that faith in God is the higher or more important virtue. When the two collide, as they obviously do in the story of Abraham and Isaac, Abraham makes the correct choice and values faith over his own ideas on morality. I honestly don’t see the value in attempting to justify murder by saying “it’s ok…God told me to do it”, but that is exactly what Kierkegaard does. After reading Kierkegaard’s position, he has been moved down a peg or two in my book. I value the teachings of Kierkegaard about as much as those of Thomas Aquinas (not much).

  6. ViannaB August 19th, 2009 10:17 am

    You may have a point. I was pretty shocked when I played this during a car trip with my husband and his children. However, in listening to RadioLab (I am a huge fan and my evangelizing about the show has it being listened to by people in several countries, including Indonesia) I am always particularly aware that Jad and Robert have views and passions both in common and those that are at odds. For me, it is what makes the show particularly engaging. I am taken down a path that surprises and never gets stuck in ideology one way or another. It’s a gentle respectful debate oftentimes. This departure was a surprise, for sure, but I am not swearing off the entire show just because one of its hosts who favors one side of an arguably overlapping perspective bowed out for one segment. So, this departure seemed a gracious moment for Jad to allow Robert his say alone. Let’s face it, Jad is the one whose views typically get the most voice (and if that were not true, it seems you wouldn’t be listening as regularly as you seem to be).

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